
The is a pic of one of those juveniles and it clearly shows the cinnamon/brown edging on the wing (also on back feathers not visible in pic) that most easily distinguishes those in juvenal plumage from adult plumage. Other distinguishing features of juvenal plumage are not visible in this pic which I took, handheld, about 50 feet from the bird. However, the still somewhat yellowish bill flanges are visible and indicate that this is a fairly young juvenile. In my experience with a number of Black Phoebe nestings, birds that still have as much distinguishable gape flanges have only recently moved from being fed by parents as fledglings to their independent juvenile stage. Double-click on the pic to enlarge it for better viewing. SeEtta
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